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Ramashiva Rules: two examples of Kathleen Toliver's total incompetence

Sunday, September 03, 2006

two examples of Kathleen Toliver's total incompetence

In my long post "Las Vegas Poker Mafia Command Structure" I made reference to a floor decision which was 100% incorrect made by Doug Dalton's number one assistant, Kathleen Toliver. I didn't give the details then, because the post had already grown to unwieldy length. Here are the details --

The dealer inadvertently dealt a third card to the small blind. This card would have been the preflop burn card. By the time the small blind realized he had three cards, two players had already called or raised the big blind.

When Kathleen was called over for a decision, she wouldn't let me speak, and she ruled the hand a misdeal, because it was impossible to determine which of the small blind's three cards was the preflop burn card.

Wrong answer, Kathleen. Thanks for confirming that you do not understand the rules of poker. The hand cannot be a misdeal, because there was substantial action on the hand before the discrepancy was discovered.

It doesn't matter which of the small blind's cards was the burn card. One of them certainly was.

The correct decision is to declare the small blind's hand dead and refund him his small blind. The hand then proceeds normally with no burn card before putting out the flop.

The original flop is preserved, and all the other players play the hands they were dealt with the correct flop.

See how simple this is when you understand the rules? Kathleen Toliver does not understand the rules of poker.

Another example of Kathleen's cluelessness was provided me by Anita Gupta. Those of you involved in the Las Vegas poker scene in the early 90s know Anita to be a ravishingly beautiful Asian Indian woman with large round soulful eyes. Anita was my student right up until the time of my barring.

Here is the hand Anita related to me --

Anita was playing a $3/$6 game. She was in the big blind when several limpers were raised by the button. The small blind folded, and Anita called, noting that the button only had $2 left. All the limpers called.

Anita flopped a strong hand and checked, intending to checkraise the button and get heads up with the button, who would be all in. Everyone checked to the button who bet $2 all in. Anita tried to checkraise, but the incompetent dealer told her she couldn't. Naturally, Anita demanded a floor decision.

Unfortunately for Anita, Kathleen was called to make the decision. Kathleen ruled that Anita could not checkraise, because she had previously checked that round, and you cannot checkraise an all in player in that situation.

Wrong again, Kathleen. How someone as incompetent as you ever got your job is beyond me. Doug must really like your blowjobs.

The correct ruling, of course, is that Anita can indeed checkraise. In this situation, you can checkraise if the all in bet is at least half a bet. You cannot checkraise if the all in bet is less than half a bet.

You can thank me any time for the free lesson on poker rules, Kathleen. Your arrogance in not allowing me to correct you on your incorrect ruling previously discussed is typical of the idiots who ran the Mirage Poker Room at the time I played there. There was no one, and I mean no one, on the Mirage managerial staff who knew the poker room rules nearly as well as I did. That is simple fact, not bragging.

I want to remind you again that Kathleen Toliver was in charge of training new dealers at the Mirage for a long time. It is no mystery why the Mirage Poker Room had so many incompetent dealers.

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